The Best Strategy For Facebook in China: Forget About China

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We are still talking about Facebook and try to learn from every change it made; but in the meanwhile, we don’t really care about Facebook anymore as some of Chinese do think Facebook is 非死不可 (in Pinyin: FeiSiBuKe which pronounces similar to Facebook) which means Dooms to Die. With fast growth of Chinese Facebook-likers including Xiaonei and Kaixin001 etc and new comers operated by the portals such as BaiShehui by Sohu, Pengyou by Tencent, Taojianghui by Taobao etc, if you asked those Chinese students or those do not pay attention to the web industry, they even don’t know who is copying whom.

I was sitting in a panel with former Facebook senior in Tencent MIND summit 2009, Guangzhou and we together talked a lot about China web as well as Facebook. The million-dollars question is what’s the best strategy for Facebook in China, and the conclusion I want to tell you here is, it might sound a bit aggressive but I think it does make some sense, Forget About China.

If you are not ready for China, don’t come – I was leading Netvibes in China but it did not work out in the end. The product itself is one thing as Netvibes’s personalized page is just too good (advanced) for Chinese web. And Netvibes was not ready too. We actually had a very good start, e.g. together with Sohu, we launched the first Open Platform in China in Jan 2008; We also signed the agreement with Maxthon, the leading Chinese browser; We were discussing with Monternet (China Mobile), Yahoo China, Comsenz, CSDN etc which are looking into Netvibes’ widget technology; We have reached tens of leading Chinese services providers (medias, video-sharing, image-sharing, sns, music, blog services, rss players,etc). All these sound super great, but caused the trouble: we did not have the resource (money, team etc) to handle them. No matter how strong you are in western market, once you are in China, things can be totally different. Do not assume your good Chinese partners want you badly, in most cases they can live well without you (and with local partners), so sit closely to them, push them on the projects instead of waiting for them; China, in general is cheap, but cheap does not mean you don’t need money. Well, in web 2.0, Word-of-Mouth (WOM) is brilliant, but do remember sometimes WOM is driven by money, especially in China. Did you see Facebook officially runs any promotion campaigns in universities? At least i did not know any in UK. But in China, offline promotion in campus is quite common and costy.

If you believe your global strategy can work, don’t come – In other words, if you neither understand Chinese Internet culture nor listen to your local advisers, it is almost impossible to succeed in the end. Myspace China is a good example, and Censorship could be an interesting topic too. OK, I know most of people think censorship in China is a bad thing as they do believe in User Generated Content (UGC) in web 2.0, i.e they ‘respect’ whatever users generated. Then the decision makers who are sitting far far away from China will tell you, NO! we are not going to compromise with local regulation. But do not forget, censorship as far as I know, it is everywhere not just in China. If you have double standards, do not complain on other things when your business fails.

Back to 1 year ago, the rumor about Facebook in China is everywhere, which local social network Facebook would acquire, who might be appointed to be the CEO of Facebook China etc. Too much buzz about you but nothing become real, which will do no good for your future plan: The young Chinese users do not know Facebook still, and the worst thing I heard is some of them who know Facebook are saying, hm… Facebook looks like Xiaonei, Kaixin001 etc.

My former Facebook friend thinks Facebook will eventually come to China, but not in near future. So Mark, until you make a clear decision, please forget about China. And most importantly, this strategy, I think it applies to other web companies who wants the China cake too.

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  • boozm

    Once people (especially companies, and large investors) spend enough time in china, they will realize that they no longer want 'the china cake'. China should just continue living in it's own little mythical dream world, and the rest of the planet can happily forget about them all:)

  • boozm

    Once people (especially companies, and large investors) spend enough time in china, they will realize that they no longer want 'the china cake'. China should just continue living in it's own little mythical dream world, and the rest of the planet can happily forget about them all:)

  • eddie

    well, “censorship”elsewhere applies knly to not browsing indecent materials in public which may cause embarassment to others or which may cause harm to underage person,otherwise you are free to browse or create anything you like in private,certainly not the kind of political censorship(you know what i mean).i understand the circumstance in china,but to say that “censorship is everywhere” is inaccurate, hope it is just a clause to protect your own ass online.

  • eddie

    well, “censorship”elsewhere applies knly to not browsing indecent materials in public which may cause embarassment to others or which may cause harm to underage person,otherwise you are free to browse or create anything you like in private,certainly not the kind of political censorship(you know what i mean).i understand the circumstance in china,but to say that “censorship is everywhere” is inaccurate, hope it is just a clause to protect your own ass online.

  • china is a sh** hole

    Amen! China is so bass akwards. People are rude, they smell, and no one has any idea what he hell is going on around them.

  • china is a sh** hole

    Amen! China is so bass akwards. People are rude, they smell, and no one has any idea what he hell is going on around them.

  • too bad >.<

    unfortunately he probably has no idea since he lives in china and naturally believes everything the govt tells him

  • too bad >.<

    unfortunately he probably has no idea since he lives in china and naturally believes everything the govt tells him

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    I dont know which place you are from. But left a comment like this on tech-focus blog? shame on you.

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    I dont know which place you are from. But left a comment like this on tech-focus blog? shame on you.

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    I actually lived in UK for over 7 years and recently moved back to China.My question is: have you been to China?

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    I actually lived in UK for over 7 years and recently moved back to China.My question is: have you been to China?

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    I dont want to argue with you on the 'censorship', my friend. If you are an entrepreneur and want to do business in China, please focus on the marketing strategy, creating suitable product/services and buiding a good local team.

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    I dont want to argue with you on the 'censorship', my friend. If you are an entrepreneur and want to do business in China, please focus on the marketing strategy, creating suitable product/services and buiding a good local team.

  • http://www.dbsight.net/ Chris Lu

    Very good article!Thanks Gang Lu

  • http://www.dbsight.net/ Chris Lu

    Very good article!Thanks Gang Lu

  • http://www.web2asia.com/ George

    I fully agree with your points Gang execpt for one thing: Facebook in my view took exactly the right approach with China. They did not like Myspace set up a local rep office and fully localized. Instead they just localized with very little to no costs by crowdsourcing the translation into simpl. Chinese and hosting from abroad. This gives them a comfortable position to just wait and see what happens. Eventually they can only win. The results so far are not bad: within the last 2 months Facebook users in China rose from 300,000 to over 900,000 (https://twitter.com/taweili/status/2417660618). Lets check again in 6 months from now and you will notice a even more dramatic increase. FB for a long time will not reach the numbers of users Myspace has in China (6 Million) or maybe never the numbers the local SNS have but the point is: they dont care. Instead of burning their fingers and losing their face (like Myspace for example, where even Ruport Murdochs Chinese wife couldnt get the thing going) they have so many other countries around the globe, with much higher income users and advertizers that they can focus on first. They'll deal with China once its worthwhile. Until then they can continue to grow with Chinese users with hardly any burn rate.

  • http://www.web2asia.com/ George

    I fully agree with your points Gang execpt for one thing: Facebook in my view took exactly the right approach with China. They did not like Myspace set up a local rep office and fully localized. Instead they just localized with very little to no costs by crowdsourcing the translation into simpl. Chinese and hosting from abroad. This gives them a comfortable position to just wait and see what happens. Eventually they can only win. The results so far are not bad: within the last 2 months Facebook users in China rose from 300,000 to over 900,000 (https://twitter.com/taweili/status/2417660618). Lets check again in 6 months from now and you will notice a even more dramatic increase. FB for a long time will not reach the numbers of users Myspace has in China (6 Million) or maybe never the numbers the local SNS have but the point is: they dont care. Instead of burning their fingers and losing their face (like Myspace for example, where even Ruport Murdochs Chinese wife couldnt get the thing going) they have so many other countries around the globe, with much higher income users and advertizers that they can focus on first. They'll deal with China once its worthwhile. Until then they can continue to grow with Chinese users with hardly any burn rate.

  • http://www.nextstepdirectory.com/ Gregory Prudhommeaux

    Interesting article. In one of the event that we co-organized in Shanghai about Tech Start-ups, someone raised this question :Could you name a company owned and founded by foreigners in China who succeed in China ? (Except Taiwanese, HK, Japanese, Korean)So… Could you ?

  • http://www.nextstepdirectory.com/ Gregory Prudhommeaux

    Interesting article. In one of the event that we co-organized in Shanghai about Tech Start-ups, someone raised this question :Could you name a company owned and founded by foreigners in China who succeed in China ? (Except Taiwanese, HK, Japanese, Korean)So… Could you ?

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    I think I was in that event, Gregory.Qunar.com (competitor of ctrip.com), 360quan (SNS doing OK), ChinesePod.com (doing great, focus on globle market, its EnglishPod.com doing ok), Tudou is co-founded by foreigner, right?

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    I think I was in that event, Gregory.Qunar.com (competitor of ctrip.com), 360quan (SNS doing OK), ChinesePod.com (doing great, focus on globle market, its EnglishPod.com doing ok), Tudou is co-founded by foreigner, right?

  • Laowai

    But there are many foreigners too who are studying & living in China, like me myself. So what to do, if you want to keep in touch with our friends who are in Facebook. Do you want me to open an account in Xiaonei or write blog in sohu & call them out there to get connected.I know it won't affect the Chinese people with such block & bans, but certainly for laowais like us, it does affect.. A LOT!Anywayit sucks to be in China & to be blocked like this.

  • Laowai

    But there are many foreigners too who are studying & living in China, like me myself. So what to do, if you want to keep in touch with our friends who are in Facebook. Do you want me to open an account in Xiaonei or write blog in sohu & call them out there to get connected.I know it won't affect the Chinese people with such block & bans, but certainly for laowais like us, it does affect.. A LOT!Anywayit sucks to be in China & to be blocked like this.

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    thanks for your comment.I am a bit surprised that people read this post from different angles, but I think I can understand the reason.As a tech blogger, I am NOT saying Facebook should stop its service in China. 'Forget about China' does not mean Forget it Forever, it means Forget about it Until you take the business in China more seriously and understand the local internet culture.Forget about China actually is a Good and Safe strategy. Do not rush into Chinese market which is very different from the western before you are truly ready!

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    thanks for your comment.I am a bit surprised that people read this post from different angles, but I think I can understand the reason.As a tech blogger, I am NOT saying Facebook should stop its service in China. 'Forget about China' does not mean Forget it Forever, it means Forget about it Until you take the business in China more seriously and understand the local internet culture.Forget about China actually is a Good and Safe strategy. Do not rush into Chinese market which is very different from the western before you are truly ready!

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    Thanks a lot for you adding here, George.First, I am not saying Facebook is not doing ok. Myspace didnot forget about China, they have office, local staff etc, but because eventually they dont really understand how to do the business in China, as you said, they are losing face. No rumor about Facebook China recently, no office, no local team, but FB is doing ok, is 'Forget about China' a good and strategy?Another reason triggered me to write down this post is that, I know some guys in FB understands the way of doing business in China, but disappointingly, the big bosses would not listen to those advice. So 'Forget about China' is the best strategy, at lease for now.

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    Thanks a lot for you adding here, George.First, I am not saying Facebook is not doing ok. Myspace didnot forget about China, they have office, local staff etc, but because eventually they dont really understand how to do the business in China, as you said, they are losing face. No rumor about Facebook China recently, no office, no local team, but FB is doing ok, is 'Forget about China' a good and strategy?Another reason triggered me to write down this post is that, I know some guys in FB understands the way of doing business in China, but disappointingly, the big bosses would not listen to those advice. So 'Forget about China' is the best strategy, at lease for now.

  • sof

    now y am i not surprised??!! wht next?

  • sof

    now y am i not surprised??!! wht next?

  • http://www.nextstepdirectory.com/ Gregory Prudhommeaux

    Chinese/EnglishPod are doing Ok, indeed. Tudou was co-founded by a couple of Foreigners such as Marc Van Der Chijs.Alright some good examples.This event was the one at the Spanish Consulate with DAD.es founder ?

  • http://www.nextstepdirectory.com/ Gregory Prudhommeaux

    Chinese/EnglishPod are doing Ok, indeed. Tudou was co-founded by a couple of Foreigners such as Marc Van Der Chijs.Alright some good examples.This event was the one at the Spanish Consulate with DAD.es founder ?

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    yes. that's the event.

  • http://www.mobinode.com/ Gang Lu

    yes. that's the event.

  • Abby Ong

    A place like Facebook is part of our life here living aboard in Shanghai as a Foreigner. I get to keep in touch with my family , friends with no more distance. Now this is really getting me mad and sad with blocking the connection to Facebook. And Yes .. No one can understand why is this actually happens ..

  • Abby Ong

    A place like Facebook is part of our life here living aboard in Shanghai as a Foreigner. I get to keep in touch with my family , friends with no more distance. Now this is really getting me mad and sad with blocking the connection to Facebook. And Yes .. No one can understand why is this actually happens ..

  • sof

    ughhhh!!! this is sooooooooooooo damn annoying!!!!!!!i just dont effin get it!!!!!seriously!!!! thnks alot china!!!i feel like im on a desert right now!!!!

  • sof

    ughhhh!!! this is sooooooooooooo damn annoying!!!!!!!i just dont effin get it!!!!!seriously!!!! thnks alot china!!!i feel like im on a desert right now!!!!

  • bruno

    I think this is too much of a one-sided vision, Gang Lu. like DeNA and Wap TX, long due diligence process can lead to a successful acquisition (now we wait for the successful integration of course). Facebook will not proceed otherwise, they will team up, and it will take years in DD and so on, but since it is likely they will become “liquid” (read IPO) before some big SNS in China, they will have some currency to come in with too, and they – hopefully – have learned from MySpace china lessons (and eBay etc). Some Western companies do succeed in china, and they are usually low key and entrenched. A startup like Netvibes was opportunistic about china, and you unfortunately paid the price for it. at the end, their real numbers worldwide are also far from what they announced, so it is not surprising they retrenched. Bruno (MobileMonday, Shanghaivest and AAMA Angel group)

  • bruno

    I think this is too much of a one-sided vision, Gang Lu. like DeNA and Wap TX, long due diligence process can lead to a successful acquisition (now we wait for the successful integration of course). Facebook will not proceed otherwise, they will team up, and it will take years in DD and so on, but since it is likely they will become “liquid” (read IPO) before some big SNS in China, they will have some currency to come in with too, and they – hopefully – have learned from MySpace china lessons (and eBay etc). Some Western companies do succeed in china, and they are usually low key and entrenched. A startup like Netvibes was opportunistic about china, and you unfortunately paid the price for it. at the end, their real numbers worldwide are also far from what they announced, so it is not surprising they retrenched. Bruno (MobileMonday, Shanghaivest and AAMA Angel group)

  • XiaomaP

    I don't see any financial performance behind your comments. I am thinking Facebook don't have representation in every country where they are accesible as this would be a completely pointless cash burn exercise with no value for them. Why are you so convinced they need representation here. Are you familiar with their P&L and global strategy. Perhaps they do not care and any China user is a bonus? Their user base will grow globally and that is what is of interest to them. As mentioned by you there are no advertising campaigns in the UK for example and so again no cost but they have a huge user following with exponential growth as friends invite friends.Advertising revenues after all are not related to this market specifically as many global services are just not available here or of no interest to the customer base here so this would be a limited driver for them. Please don't go down the root of the US and start to think you must be the center of everything and everyone who wants to be someone should be represented in china as per the figures for no effort and cost they now have 900K users which will continue to grow.For the record I am from the UK and have spent 10 years working in china in different locations. I love being here and hope to stay. I hate the fact that for most things China is not integrated globally and would suggest this is what you should start to work at instead of telling succesful foreign organizations how they “don't know china”

  • XiaomaP

    I don't see any financial performance behind your comments. I am thinking Facebook don't have representation in every country where they are accesible as this would be a completely pointless cash burn exercise with no value for them. Why are you so convinced they need representation here. Are you familiar with their P&L and global strategy. Perhaps they do not care and any China user is a bonus? Their user base will grow globally and that is what is of interest to them. As mentioned by you there are no advertising campaigns in the UK for example and so again no cost but they have a huge user following with exponential growth as friends invite friends.Advertising revenues after all are not related to this market specifically as many global services are just not available here or of no interest to the customer base here so this would be a limited driver for them. Please don't go down the root of the US and start to think you must be the center of everything and everyone who wants to be someone should be represented in china as per the figures for no effort and cost they now have 900K users which will continue to grow.For the record I am from the UK and have spent 10 years working in china in different locations. I love being here and hope to stay. I hate the fact that for most things China is not integrated globally and would suggest this is what you should start to work at instead of telling succesful foreign organizations how they “don't know china”

  • bloggeruy

    I guess many people look at China as a great underdog. You'll be surprised how they will soon take over the digital world.Satellite TV for PC

  • james

    What an interesting headline. internet marketing

  • estrella777

    don't you think is not facebook not ready for china but china not ready for the world? as you said censorship is in everywhere but isn't it stupid? wherever it is; e.g: those which don't want to watch porn will never watch it even is on internet, and those ones who want to watch, i'm sure even they do not have internet, they could buy dvd. if we are under 18 our families should take care of us, and if i'm already married… am i not allowed to watch porn with my couple? i don't need the goverment to tell me that i cannot see this, i should watch that… i need facebook… and i am sure lots of expats in china need it as well.

  • http://www.kai-mai.com/ Kai

    To have a chance in China, Facebook needs to block all the mafia, war apps in China. Chinese government mandates such games must be banned.

  • Oliver Clevont

    Twitter, Facebook, BlogSpot and YouTube are blocked in China. Wikipedia was too previously, but after the Olympics it was unblocked due to political pressure.

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  • FJ26

    I agree with most foreigners who live in China & I hope someday chinese people will open their eyes to see the big picture as we do. They don't understand that their government tries to keep them secluded from the rest of the world in so many ways!!. Most educated people here have no freaking clue who is “Che” or “Brad Pitt”, it's so frustrating!!.

  • aussierocks

    these chinese people can never be able to understand what we say . they always act like sheep . even if we say things with facts but they always be deaf .due to their bad government i'm unable to contact my friends and it sucks . these people they just love money that's all . piss on u all SUCKersi don't know what u guys replied that i'm really angry and i'm spitting it out n loud . your government is a BIG idiot Asshole n so do you . that's what i'm feeling now of being cut off from my friends . i know that my comment is full of abuse but i'm saying the truth and u deserve it . RRRRaaarrrrr

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  • meihui

    yes, good idea….all i can say china is selfish…censorship is everywhere here…they are blind to see for that thing…lots of dvd porn everywhere….for me china gov'n dont want their fellows to be civilized….

  • steven

    Even the “Business Rule” of China is not good. But really need to understand for incomer. Sometime it is very difficult to explain.

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  • aussierocksmya55

    I don't understand why facebook need to be cencored but seriously if you miss your friends/family that much why don't you get your A55 back Downunder… No point complaining and act like an idiot on an internet blog mate!If you can't respect a foreign countries' policy or culture, then go back home or live with it.

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  • china123

    without china, you americans will have to spend 100USD on a piece of shirt, 1500USD on a piece of bike. Your US-Brands like apple, giant, blah blah… almost everything, will no longer be able to make money. Learn to do business, ignorant young minds.

  • pickle1

    I agree with Estrella777Gang lu, don't you think it's China that is not ready for the world?You left a comment to someone saying that americans will have to buy tshirts for $100 and blah blah blah. But take a look at the other side of the coin, it's CHINA who is gonna suffer without this relationship, it's CHINA who will loose all the money that comes from export. The rest of the world WILL survive without China because we can actually afford the things that we will produce ourselves. For the most of the part we are using chinese products because they are cheaper but it doesn't mean that we can't afford anything else that won't be made in china if we would be forced to do so.On the other hand, China will loose all it's investments. So it's CHINA who is depending on the rest of the world. Cuz China simply won't have anything to do lol, don't take it personally but obviously most of the chinese ppl r not that ambitious and they dont need that much in life so there won't be progress.I understand the problems come from the lack of culture. But thats the point, you wont “upgrade” if u cut urself out of everyone else. We learn from comparison!Well anyways, i was just trying to find a proxy server to get on facebook haha and got all involed in this discussion.The only reason facebook is blocked in this country is that some ppl actually r trying to do something for freedom and independence. And i support them.And chinese government is trying so hard to keep everyone under control and not let any free thinking that might improve ppl's lifes.I'm sick of facebook being blocked for half a year now. I used to use some proxy serveces but now they r blocked as well….Is there anything in this country u can do about it?

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  • morryone

    I'd drop the 'if you don't like it, go home' comment. For one, it implies that foreigners are simply onlookers when they come to China, and have no value in assisting China develop. Foreign consulting firms, from McKinsey & Co to a 'two-man shops' are assisting China integrate (slowly) with the rest of the world through Best Practices. For example, many Fortune 500 companies have a 'no-gift' policy, which means staff cannot even receive discount vouchers. This policy was born from the countless cases of 'hong bao' (red packet) bribes that were part of the Chinese culture. These companies essentially said, “we don't like it”, but they didn't go home. They helped change that culture, and China is better for it.I say, “If you don't like it” tell someone about it (nicely) because discussion creates change.

  • vchenatsh

    Totally agree!

  • fuckedoff

    I couldn't agree more.

  • fuckedoff

    And why do you think Chinese stuff is cheaper? exactly, because it's crap. It's cheap and nasty, mate.

  • fuckedoff

    You lived in the UK and moved back to China? Why the hell would you do that? Yes, I've lived in China, and tell you what: just by the way your retard cock sucking motherfucker of gvt controls all the media living still in this make-believe communist paradise, and then millions of average Chinese don't even have a health insurance turns my stomach sick . So, yes, mate, I've lived in China. Give me that liberal progressive Europe any time, thank you very much.

  • fuckedoff

    Yeah, because their gvt is full of corrupt sons of bitches already.

  • Jan

    Use a VPN-client (:

  • kris111

    yes i can name a very successful company that is actually a german company who started up in china…. it's tsing tao or (Qing Dao) beer company. it is founded by germans and is one of the most sold beers in china .-)im from denmark but is currently living in Beijing, and i am a little surprised to hear such dirty talk about the Chinese in general. it's not that china has no down sides, but come on, if you come to the land that has a 4000 year philosophical and innovative cultureal history, and want to colonize and make money, you are asking for it. i think you buisness people need to understand that before the cultural revolution china was occupied and in part time war with the Japanese and Europeans, and that including the isolation period that the country has been going thru is part of why they are not embracing every businessman who sets feed on their ground.we also have to remember that china holds the biggest reserve of dollars outside of the us, and is pretty much one of the main carecters in saving the world from financial crisis right now. you might not like it but it is more them who don't need us then us that don't need them in the future….

  • kris111

    if you need facebook so bad, why not move to japan, if you want to stay in asia, or even better just move back to europe or the states or where ever you are from. i mean if you want to live in china you eat chinese food and and watch youku.cn instead of youtube like the chinese, i mean we could also start complaining over how impossible it is to buy european delicacies that we are used to eat at home.

  • swelt

    ..and all gemans are nazi, all americans are thinking like g.w.bush, all… so, there's sombedoy talking never been to china before? don't mix goc and the countrie's people. chinese people are great and even the poorest beggar is wearing better clothes than i do ;)

  • aussieLynne

    I am an Australian living in china and I love it and the people. Although I cant use facebook this time around its no big deal. I can understand why Gang lu moved back to china, because the people are much happier than most of the unfortunate people on this page who have disgusting manners and are obviously very unhappy people based on the vitriole spewing from their messages. And the health system here is fine. My friend needed a trip in an ambulance and they were fantastic, China is great,

  • Truth

    get real china123 ohnestly, if china didnt exist their would be fair working policies and we would have a cleaner planet but besides the point if your words 'learn to do business' relating to exploiting poor people in factories where they only have access to very little food then we now which direction your bringing the world to be. Get real china123 it may be profitable to have bad morals and exploit people but in all seriousness your the ignorant and arrogant person, the one who WONT EVER look at the moral values and upholds that china does not hold

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    all cars wallpapers and pictures

  • JackyG

    It's always about the money. The word was only quote in brackets, but the meaning was sticking out like a sore thumb. All that “brilliant” worded rebuttals and the fancy names like CEO, UGC and 2.0 still does not make a valid point and cover for the banning of facebook. It was said here “who might be appointed to be the CEO of Facebook China etc.” Also “we did not have the resource” meaning the main intrest is to estblish a source profit. With out it, China will not think twice.If you had an view point on this topic is fair enough. But by saying the “The young Chinese users” meant you target them all, by not clearing only saying a percentage. Maybe the rest of the young people in china should have a chance to keep up with the world. Our genaration makes tomorrow, with out learning from the rest of the world, we are still stuck at the start.In the 21st century the world is going full speed, while the rest of the world is dealing with current affairs, China is dealing with 'facebook'. There is no need for strategy, simply you are not ready for facebook, because facebook is ready for China and the rest of the world is proof. China is a great country, with 5000 years history. People like you, use the word 'China' as a shield should think deep, because of what your view is. You are blaming it on China by putting China as a thrid person in your vocab. When the world views it on a issue simple as this, you devaule China by just metioning it. Where there is Youth, there is future. And it all begins with a Question to another. Think youth and not the dollers.

  • Dklicious

    About this Facebook and China talk, first of all like all human, people are proud of their country good or bad, no matter if the contry is deprived or poor orbroken, there is always blood pumping energy when you think about the country you belong to…perfect examples like Iraq, India or even China. So the Chinese people are proud and do love China under all these layers of poverty and political corruption, so no matter what happens, the Chinese are doing everything they can to make China a better place to live in, it might be slow, but every step is a giant step. China-A big country with 1,325,082,380 estimated population in Jan 2009Facebook- (To me it's a web site that can link friends together and finding old friends and play games and to share alot of stuff, and people can develope newer apps on it)When you talked about business in China, :(Do not assume your good Chinese partners want you badly, in most cases they can live well without you.) That is a bad statement, what do people want in business…$$$$ and Chinese people love doing business as long as they can make money. SO they will come to you, but you will have to make an effort to change and complie with the countries standards…and about xiaonei etc, people love to copy in China, not because it's a free country, but as long u can comply and change according to their standards…you can live, and people do want to make a living, beucase there is so much populations in China it's hard to make some money, so the easiest way is to copy and do it better. Some might fail but some succeeds. So you must take it in the face, because it's life. And there is no monopolys in China in some ways, so yes you might do good in western countries, but in China things change.

  • Asterio

    Face the truth man…I was born in China, but I have to say that:The world is like a farm, people decide their own character.and Chinese decide to be a worker(sheep, horse etc…) for their entire life time.which means that they really don't enjoy you talking to them because they don't even understand what you are saying, but yes they do enjoy working for you.I'm not saying chinese are bad or something,without china, you guys around the world would live in a life with nothing, no high-tech stuff, no everyday-needs…but the most important thing is that, you human don't talk to the animals, it really doesn't work.

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  • Shiloh Hudson

    I'm an American and have been working in China for the past year and a half. Here are some things about China that I've observed:1.) I'm not George Bush, but I love my country. Most Chinese people love their country, but they do not agree with the government on many points.2.) Chinese people are not a bunch of brainwashed Commies. The past generations were, but the new generation of young people are getting more and more open in their thinking. I have a lot of students in my university classes who tell me that they hate censorship in China, among other things. Does the average street cleaner know? Probably not. I'm talking about the educated.3.) Give them time. You can't expect 5,000 years of culture and tradition to change over night. They have a long way to go, but they are moving quite rapidly.4.) Chinese people are quite materialistic and love making money. That is def. one of their weak points. I find it quite ironic that China shut down facebook, twitter, youtube, etc. when comparable Chinese sites were starting to gain popularity. As soon as facebook and youtube starting gaining popularity in China, they shut them down. Now QQ, Tudou, Baidu, etc. are growing rapidly. Did they block those sites simply because of Tibetan protests, etc. No. There are other things involved. Anybody say money?

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    Was this written by a chinese person???

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  • dipakbhandari

    we know how facebook works,i am from nepal and right now in china guangzhou,m totally cutoff with my frends and other new foreign friends.why only facebook?If china want to make sponsorship then why not other social networking from china.

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  • nitin

    i travel many times to china in a year.. but cannot use facebook here :(

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